Self-portraits by actor and theatre director André Gregory (Photo courtesy Atlas Theatre Company)


We gathered around André Gregory like children eagerly assembling around the librarian for story hour. André perched in a picture window inside Winsome Brown and Claude Arpels’ fashionable Tribeca apartment. Behind him, the sun was setting over the Hudson River. On the wall hung a series of striking self-portraits by Gregory.

We were gathered in Tribeca with some of André’s closest friends and supporters to hear the legendary raconteur tell stories. The event was also a party for Before and After Dinner, a new documentary about Gregory directed by his wife, filmmaker Cindy Kleine. The genuine affection the guests felts for André was palpable as he moved around the room embracing old friends and asking questions of acquaintances and strangers. The passion, empathy, and sincerity Gregory radiates on screen also comes through in person, a fact that is quite remarkable when you consider André’s personal history.

“How many of you have seen the film The Shining?” he asked. “That’s a documentary about my childhood,” André said with a laugh. And he wasn’t kidding.

On May 18, 2009, the opening day of Wally Shawn’s Grasses of a Thousand Colors in London, which was directed by Gregory, André received a disturbing phone call from his brother, who informed him of a document implicating their prominent Jewish father as an economic spy for Hitler. The next day, André came down with a severe case of shingles.

As André told us that evening in Tribeca, most people would have balked at receiving word that their father was potentially a Nazi collaborator, but in his case, the disturbing revelation, while unexpected, was not unbelievable. The quest to confirm or disprove this shocking story would become the centerpiece of Kleine’s film. The filmmaker’s marriage to André placed her in a unique position to capture intimate stories about Gregory’s dysfunctional childhood—stories that took on new meaning in light of his brother’s discovery.


As André told us that evening in Tribeca, most people would have balked at receiving word that their father was potentially a Nazi collaborator, but in his case, the disturbing revelation, while unexpected, was not unbelievable. (Still from Before and After Dinner courtesy Cindy Kleine and Atlas Theatre Company)



André Gregory and his father (Photo courtesy Cindy Kleine and Atlas Theatre Company)


As Klein’s documentary reveals, André’s parents were “Jews who forgot to tell their kids they were Jews.” Fugitives from Stalinist Russia and Nazi Germany, the family was on the last ship to leave England before the war began. Looking back, André’s family was often one step ahead of the Nazis, a fact that raises further questions about his father’s connections with Hitler. The fact that Hitler’s foreign minister also visited his parents’ home was another worrying piece of the family puzzle.

During our evening together, André described his father as “non-human”—a manic depressive with “no empathy.” His parents would leave André and his brother in the care of a babysitter, then disappear. Instead of returning home as scheduled or sending home news of their whereabouts or travel plans, they would send money. Once, when André’s mother was passing a woman and child in the street, she declared, “What a beautiful baby!” The woman answered, “But Madam, he’s yours.” “My Nanny saved me,” Gregory told us.

His happiest times were in Beverly Hills in the 1940s, where the family lived in a lavish house with a plastic driveway lit from below. André remembers Charlie Chaplin visiting regularly. One afternoon Marlene Dietrich and Greta Garbo played tennis in his backyard, a doubles match against Thomas Mann and Errol Flynn. According to rumors, his mother had an affair with Errol Flynn.

“I know when I die, you’ll dance on my grave,” André’s mother once chided the family. “It was so true,” Gregory explained, “no one knew what to say.”

Gregory grew up in an overly formal household where people said horrible things about the people they loved most. As a child, André was never touched, hugged, or shown any sort of physical affection. An attractive girl once kissed the teenage Gregory in a graveyard and he fainted in shock.


André riding an alligator (Photo courtesy Cindy Kleine and Atlas Theatre Company)


It was his desire to heal his parent’s unhappiness and dysfunction that honed his role as the family caretaker, a role he has also assumed within his theatre company. “If you go into the theater,” his mother once told him, “your father will have a heart attack. He’s already had one.” As a boy, Gregory longed to have a magic wand to fix his father. “I wanted to persuade him that his life was really beautiful,” Gregory reveals in an intimate moment in Before and After Dinner. “You have such a nice life…wonderful friends…you’re so well off.”

Most people know André Gregory through his critically acclaimed film My Dinner with André (or, from the other end of the film spectrum, as the warden who has his eye gouged out by Wesley Snipes in Demolition Man). Gregory has had numerous film acting roles. He played John the Baptist in Scorsese’s Last Temptation of Christ and appeared in Woody Allen’s Celebrity and Peter Weir’s The Mosquito Coast. Louis Malle, Wallace Shawn, and Gregory also collaborated on the film Vanya on 42nd Street with Julianne Moore. Kleine told me that Gregory is frequently recognized on the streets of New York, but his celebrity is of a peculiar sort. Those who recognize him from My Dinner with André often approach Gregory “with gracious awe, the way one approaches a great rabbi or teacher.”

Andre Gregory in 1965  (Photo courtesy Cindy Kleine and Atlas Theatre Company)



Performing is really about “the art of being,” says André. To inhabit such a place as an actor, writer, or director requires both space and a sense of safety, an atmosphere Gregory is clearly skilled at creating within his company. (Photos courtesy Cindy Kleine and Atlas Theatre Company)

But Gregory’s impact on the art world extends far beyond these high-profile acting roles. In the theatre world, André Gregory is revered as a master storyteller, an influential teacher, and as a visionary director who believes that the role of theatre is to awaken the audience and make them question themselves and the world around them (no small goal). For Gregory, this means keeping audiences small and venues intimate. “What happens in these small spaces because of their intimacy,” Kleine explained, “is that audience members become active participants in the ritual being performed.” In the same way that chamber music loses its impact in an oversized concert hall, live theatre can also lose its effectiveness if a venue is too large.

From the very beginning of his career, Gregory had a fresh and personal approach to theatre. Deeply influenced by both Brecht and Tarkovsky, he is one of the original creators of the regional and off-Broadway theatre movements. His legendary, Obie-winning production of Alice in Wonderland played in New York for seven years. “People screamed during the play like a roller coaster,” Shawn told Noah Baumbach in an interview. It was “thrilling.” Alice toured the U.S., Middle East, and Europe and was eventually made into a book in collaboration with photographer Richard Avedon.

Gregory often says that Alice in Wonderland is a “portrait of his own childhood.” Alice is born into this terrifying, insane world and is simply traveling around trying to make sense of things, but she never gets a direct answer to her questions.

Richard Avedon’s 1973 book Alice in Wonderland: The Forming of a Company and the Making of a Play (Photo © Richard Avedon courtesy the Richard Avedon Foundation. Click to Enlarge)



Deeply influenced by both Brecht and Tarkovsky, Gregory is one of the original creators of the regional and off-Broadway theatre movements. (Photo courtesy

Kleine’s film gives us a rare look at how a childhood can shape the creative life of an artist. But be forewarned, this is not a traditional documentary. To better understand Kleine’s approach, it’s useful to revisit My Dinner with André, for Before and After Dinner is really a companion piece to the much-discussed, art-house hit from 1981. If My Dinner with Andre gives its audience a glimpse of “André the Character,” Before and After Dinner addresses the gap between fiction and reality by giving us a taste of “André Gregory the Man.” Both films ask versions of the same question: “Who exactly is André Gregory?”

Directed by French filmmaker Louis Malle, My Dinner with André was a radical concept in 1981 and remains so today. The entire 110-minute movie depicts a conversation between André Gregory and his friend Wally Shawn during dinner in a chic Manhattan restaurant. The two friends talk about experimental theater, love, work, money, spirituality, and the nature of life itself. There are no flashbacks depicted on screen, only verbal exchanges like these between André and Wally:

André: What does it do to us, Wally, living in an environment where something as massive as the seasons or winter or cold, don’t in any way affect us? I mean, we’re animals after all. I mean… what does that mean? I think that means that instead of living under the sun and the moon and the sky and the stars, we’re living in a fantasy world of our own making.

Wally: Yeah, but I mean, I would never give up my electric blanket, Andre. I mean, because New York is cold in the winter. I mean, our apartment is cold! It’s a difficult environment. I mean, our life is tough enough as it is. I’m not looking for ways to get rid of a few things that provide relief and comfort. I mean, on the contrary, I’m looking for more comfort because the world is very abrasive. I mean, I’m trying to protect myself because, really, there’s these abrasive beatings to be avoided everywhere you look!

André: But, Wally, don’t you see that comfort can be dangerous? I mean, you like to be comfortable and I like to be comfortable too, but comfort can lull you into a dangerous tranquility.


My Dinner with André “is about men, because men tend to be so hidden,” says Gregory. “And Wally is hiding behind silence. I’m hiding behind words. The progress of the movie is that Wally is able to come out and start revealing and I’m able to to listen…These were radical actions as characters.”



(Photos courtesy Cindy Kleine and Atlas Theatre Company)

For six months Shawn and Gregory met in a room at NYU to work on the project. Each session began with André telling Wally a story. By the time they ended these regular meetings, the typed transcript from their conversations was over 1500 single-spaced pages. Shawn spent more than a year wading through the transcript identifying central themes that could be used in the screenplay. From these themes, he crafted a three-hour script comprised entirely of fragments from his real conversations with Gregory. Malle, Shawn, and Gregory then edited the script down to a two hour film. Malle was able to trim My Dinner with André down to 110 minutes in the editing room.

They shot the film in the then-abandoned Jefferson Hotel in Richmond, Virginia. Because heating the immense building was too expensive, the crew ran heaters in between takes. Gregory says he wore long-johns and kept an electric blanket on his lap during the shoot (a funny irony in light of the above dialogue).

If it’s been a while since you’ve seen My Dinner with André, I encourage you to watch it again, for it’s one of those classic pieces of cinema that only improves and expands with time. It’s one of the few films I know that investigates the cinematic potential of language. Gregory discusses this idea further with Noah Baumbach in a DVD interview for Criterion. In the late 70s and early 80s, we were living in a time “when no one was talking…in depth. It was all…very superficial. If I had one goal with this movie, it was to hopefully activate people to talk again.”

For Gregory, My Dinner with André “is as big as Lawrence of Arabia or Cleopatra” because the film takes the viewer to Tibet and the Polish forest, but each viewer sees his own Tibet, his own Polish forest.” My Dinner with André is a radical piece of cinema because it isn’t doing everything for you as a viewer. Instead, it’s activating your imagination. “If you like the movie,” Gregory explains to Baumbach, “it’s waking you up, which was one of the intentions of the movie.”

“The film is about men, because men tend to be so hidden,” Gregory adds. “And Wally is hiding behind silence. I’m hiding behind words. The progress of the movie is that Wally is able to come out and start revealing and I’m able to to listen…These were radical actions as characters.”



In Baumbach’s interview with Wally Shawn, the playwright agrees with his friend’s description. “The film is about being asleep and waking up. Are you just crawling through your life like a mole…? Are you not observing what’s going on in your own life and not letting your consciousness speak to you?” Shawn is also quick to point out what is NOT overtly stated in the film: political consciousness. My Dinner with André depicts “two upper-class guys spending hours talking about life, while others are working and suffering,” says Shawn. “I wanted to kill that side of myself by making the film because that guy is totally motivated by fear and he’s defending himself and he is the bourgeois human being.”

In his conversation with Baumbach, Gregory says that there was one question that initially vexed him during the making of the film: Who exactly am I? In My Dinner with André he is playing a character based on himself. But even in real life the André that his doctor sees is completely different from the André his wife knows. Gregory’s breakthrough came when he got the idea for using four different voices in the film:

1. André the Peter Brook theatre guru

2. André the off-the-wall, spacey, dilettante rich kid

3. André the spiritual used car salesman

4. And André  when he is being sincere, as seen in the last part of the film

If Malle’s movie gives us these four sides of André Gregory the character, Cindy Kleine’s documentary Before and After Dinner fills in the gaps with intimate glimpses of André the loving husband, the loyal friend, the searching son, the patient director, the encouraging father figure. In many ways the films are two sides of one coin, or of one man in this case.


(Still from Before and After Dinner courtesy Cindy Kleine and Atlas Theatre Company)


Kleine’s dual role as wife and director gives us a unique perspective on André. We see him in some of his most intimate moments—making breakfast, bending over a steam inhaler, frolicking naked in a hot tub with a puffy shower cap on his head. It’s hard to imagine that such moments could have been captured by anyone other than his wife. To see a public figure letting relaxing and letting his guard down is a scarce thing in documentary film. Watching such scenes only confirms the impression I had upon meeting André in person: this is a man who has a passion for living, someone who appreciates life’s fragility. “He is a man who is not afraid to step into his own life,” says Kleine, “and is, therefore a rare and precious bird.”

Before and After Dinner is really a love story of sorts, for it captures something exceedingly uncommon in the movies: a happy marriage. “The only two films I can think of that depict happy marriages are Mrs. Miniver from 1942 and Mike Leigh’s Another Year,” Kleine told me over the phone this week. “But unhappy marriages…There are plenty of films about miserable relationships.”

Kleine is Gregory’s second wife. His first wife, filmmaker Mercedes (Chiquita) Gregory, died of breast cancer in 1992 at the age of 56. Kleine and Gregory met at a friend’s house. “He shook my hand,” Kleine told me, “And didn’t let go.” At age 39, when the filmmaker told her mother that she had fallen in love and reluctantly revealed that her new boyfriend was 63 years old, her mother’s response surprised her: “Finally you found a man mature enough for you.”


Before and After Dinner is really a love story of sorts, for it captures something exceedingly rare in the movies: a happy marriage. (Cindy Kleine and André Gregory. Photo courtesy the director and Atlas Theatre Company)



Kleine photographs her husband as he draws in their closet. (Photo courtesy Cindy Kleine)

Gregory appears to tackle each and every project with what can only be called “beginner’s mind”—a term Zen Buddhists use to describe openness, eagerness, and lack of preconceptions when studying a subject. André current passion is drawing. He studies regularly with two drawing teachers, artists Tara Geer and Richard Baker. According to Kleine, Andre eagerly shows his artwork anyone who will listen. As we watch him applying brush to paper in Before and After Dinner, Gregory seems to lapse into a meditative state. “There’s always the danger you’ll think you know what you’re doing,” André jokes in the film. His words echo those of Shunryu Suzuki, who says that “in the beginner’s mind there are many possibilities, in the expert’s mind there are few.”

André also applies this spiritual approach in his work as a director. For Gregory, the theatre is not about performance, but instead, is “an act of prayer.” Performing, he says in the film, is really about “the art of being.” To inhabit such a place as an actor, writer, or director requires both space and a sense of safety, an atmosphere Gregory is clearly skilled at creating within his company. In Before and After Dinner, we are witnesses as Shawn, Gregory, and their fellow actors slowly peel back the layers of self-consciousness. Through the act of losing their own identities, they find the depth of their characters. “André lets you carry your whole being into a scene,” Shawn says. Laughing, Gregory describes his process in blunter terms: “I create a playground for demented children!”

Gregory’s approach to theatre is not about adding elements to a performance, but instead, is about stripping away. “We wear masks,” Gregory says in Kleine’s film. “Even emotion can be a mask” during a performance. “You just need a tiny room with a few friends, and you can make a miracle.”

This film is a must-see for artists interested in the creative process and for anyone who works in the theatre or with actors. Before and After Dinner is about how and why artists create. Where does art come from? What experiences ultimately shape the life, the preoccupations, and the work of an artist?


“There’s always the danger you’ll think you know what you’re doing,” André jokes in the film. (Still from Before and After Dinner courtesy Cindy Kleine and Atlas Theatre Company)


Filmmaker Cindy Kleine and editor Jonathan Oppenheim in Kleine’s Tribecca studio (Photo courtesy Cindy Kleine and Atlas Theatre Company)

Kleine’s Before and After Dinner has more in common with Agnès Varda’s film The Beaches of Agnès than conventional American documentaries like Food Inc. and Bill Cunningham New York. Kleine’s film defies viewer expectation with its compelling and effective spiral structure. Instead of forcing Gregory’s story into an artificial, linear narrative, it mimics the loose, fractured nature of human memory.

André’s quest to uncover the truth about his father’s possible connection to Hitler is only one of the themes the film visits and revisits. We also see Gregory in his role as a husband, a friend, and a theatre director as he rehearses Ibsen’s Master Builder with Wally Shawn and other actors. Again and again, the film touches on each theme, circling events and memories in the same way that we recall our own lives—in a fragmented stream of consciousness.

Klein and her collaborator, Jonathan Oppenheim, who edited the film from over 100 hours of raw footage, had more ambitious goals than merely telling the tale of André Gregory’s life. They also wanted to push documentary film’s potential as an art form by juxtaposing this unconventional structure with Kleine’s own first-person narrative and enhancing the footage with animations by Lisa Crafts.


In 2013 Gregory and Shawn will be collaborating on two plays at the Public Theatre—The Designated Mourner and Grasses of a Thousand Colors, shown above.  (Photo courtesy Cindy Kleine and Atlas Theatre Company)



Watching Before and After Dinner in Kleine’s Tribeca studio (Photo by Michelle Aldredge)

Cindy Kleine’s last project, Phyllis and Harold, a film about her parents’ fractured 59-year marriage, was well-reviewed in publications like The New Yorker and Los Angeles Times and won multiple awards at film festivals. This new film, Before and After Dinner, is well-timed. Gregory’s most recent collaboration is with film director Jonathan Demme (The Silence of the Lambs), who will be releasing a film version of Wally Shawn’s adaptation of Master Builder in the coming months. Also, Gregory and Shawn will be collaborating on two plays at the Public Theatre in 2013—The Designated Mourner and Grasses of a Thousand Colors.

Before and After Dinner has been in production for over three years now, and Kleine has assembled a fabulous team of collaborators, including animator Lisa Crafts, composer and sound artist Bruce Odland, award-winning cinematographer Tom Hurwitz, Paris is Burning editor Jonathan Oppenheim, and co-producer and post-production supervisor Susan Lazarus. The film is close to completion, but Kleine and Gregory’s fans will have to wait a bit longer before they can see the film in theaters and at festivals. Although the documentary has a notable list of advisors, including Mike Nichols, Sir Simon Rattle, Martin Scorsese, and Ken Burns, its creation is being accomplished on a tight budget. The film remains in post-production, pending the raising of an additional $75,000 to pay for licensing, color correction, the sound mix, and final editing. Without these funds, the film won’t be completed.

Kleine has decided to use Kickstarter for this final fundraising push. If you’d like to contribute or know someone else who would, you can visit the Before and After Dinner Kickstarter page. Donations are coming in, but Kleine won’t receive any of the promised funds unless the goal of $75,000 is reached by August 25th.

You can watch Kleine’s Kickstarter video below, along with the film’s official trailer (if you’re reading this article in an email, click here to watch the videos on the Gwarlingo website). You can also receive regular updates on the film from the Before and After Dinner Twitter account and Facebook page.

As one Twitter follower recently wrote, “Everyone should be a little more like André Gregory.” I couldn’t agree more.




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